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So in ty latest amine induced haze, I'm being trying to decipher the Book of Thoth tarot. Which is abit difficult without the Book of Thoth. Luckily I have quite the esoteric collection to help me out with the hebrew and astrology. There's a spread of 15 cards. I'm been working an hour on deciphering just four of the cards. They design in complimentary layers and once I figure them out, they'll work amazing with other layouts. It's just figure out the meaning of each card that's the hard part.

Tell me what you see.


Date: 2011-05-16 10:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lunasol.livejournal.com
From the cover? Well the only part i really understand is the symbol for Jupiter (lol), but a facet of Jupiter that I don't think too many books or websites touch on is its connection to Pisces & the 12th house. Neptune is considered the ruler/natural ruler of Pisces nowadays, but Jupiter used to be the primary and only ruler, and some astrologers now consider them to be co-rulers. Jupiter is about expansion and when associated with Sagittarius, that tends to stay on primarily a material level (Sagittarius/the 9th house is associated with long-distance travel and higher learning), but i think when you connect it to Pisces and the 12th, it evades the material level and works on a spiritual, universal level. Now i know jackshit pretty much about the rest of the card, but I guess with the infinity sign, and yin and yang, that might be the aspect of Jupiter that's closer to the meaning of this card?

Or i could be totally off, because that's definitely possible.

Date: 2011-05-17 04:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayaneva.livejournal.com
Works for me and definitely sunds like something Crowley would have known when making the cards.

Date: 2011-05-17 05:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lunasol.livejournal.com
Sounds like it. I have no idea off the top of my head when Neptune was discovered, but I think Jupiter's association with Pisces is more what the card focuses on. There are still a good number of astrologers who use traditional rulerships exclusively (typically older astrologers), and in Crowley's time I'm sure traditional rulerships had a lot more weight than they do now.

I was wondering why the glyph for Neptune wasn't on the card instead and, aside from the above, I think Jupiter has a lot more structure to it than Neptune ever could. It seems like Neptune has the potential of collapsing in on itself just by the challenge of existing, whereas Jupiter is more prone to falling apart when blowing things out of proportion or taking them to excess. This card seems pretty balanced, so I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that's not the side of Jupiter that it focuses on. I'm just musing over it all.

If you have any questions about astrology-related things with the cards, feel free to shoot them my way, even if just to see how I might view it.

I can't tell, is that a serpent eating its tail?

Date: 2011-05-18 05:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayaneva.livejournal.com
I'm not sure if it's eating it's tail, so much as it's just wrapped around the end of it.

I have quite a few cards that have astrological signs in my reading so I'll gather them together and send a note your way! The astrology is throwing me for a loop because I'm not very good at it yet. I have a deck of astrology cards that's helping me learn everything but it's slow going because there's so much to know! I've had to pair up that deck with the Crowley deck in order to figure out even a little bit of what the card really means.

Date: 2011-05-18 06:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lunasol.livejournal.com
So then with the serpent, yin/yang, and Jupiter/Pisces, this card seems to be about completeness and oneness. Pisces is associated with the 12th house, the final house before starting over at House 1. In the 12th house, it's almost like coming full circle. There are no boundaries in this house, so the sense of completeness doesn't exist because all the different components are there, but because there are no different components. Everything that exists is right there as one. I guess with Jupiter, it's like expanding into oneness?

What deck is the one with the astrology cards (did i already ask you that?)? I was looking at one that incorporated a lot of astrology, but I'm a little too in love with my current deck to go off buying another one just yet.

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